For Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim who sent this comment

Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim responded to my POST analyzing his assessment of the Bodnariu case. This is his comment:

Thanks for you contribution, mister Cristianionescu. None of us know the details for sure in this case. I acknowledge that, but you talk like you have the whole picture. Maybe «barnevernet» and the police (which has their own, independent investigation) both are wrong in their accusations about violence against the children. I hope so. An yway, you’re missing my main point (on purpose, maybe): This has nothing to do with religious persecution, which a lot of people have claimed. That’s the bottom line her. Have a Merry Christmas.

First, of course I know many details about this case, that’s why I’m writing about it! But, Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim, how dare you write about it, at the same time you know close to nothing about it? And, surely, Marius and Ruth Bodnariu know ALL the details in this case!

But, Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim, how do you think I know what I know about this case? Because I asked, I talked to these people and I researched about Barnevernet! An institution so powerful, so covert and so aggressive is up to no good, Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim, don’t you think?

But what kind of a journalist are you to write without interviewing the family, Barnevernet, other families affected by them, nobody?!

Barnevernet and the police are absolutely wrong to take away the children from the parents before the investigation, putting them up for adoption before due process and also, Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim, just this week, at the time they had their legally arranged visitation with the older boys, BARNEVERNET „FORGOT TO BRING THEM”, Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim!

Oh, and about missing your point, if you had any? Nope, it started as a complain by the teacher, which was about radical and „too much” of a Christian upbringing! Also, IF you would have done your homework which, per your own admission, Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim, you did not, you would have interviewed that teacher who told Barnevernet that she does not believe the children were abused and even refused to hand the girls over to them!

And please, don’t talk to me about a Merry Christmas when my brethren are still without their children!

Be gone, Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim, until you do a proper investigation, as an unbiased and professional journalist should!

About Cristian Ionescu

Pastor Elim Romanian Pentecostal Church Chicago, USA

16 Răspunsuri to “For Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim who sent this comment”

  1. Mr. Jordheim, I hope you read this comment:

    The Bodnariu case is no ordinary case, as you have probably ascertained by now.

    At the very least Barnevernet rushed in without any warning, without any due process, and jumped the gun on confiscating the children. At the very worst this was a calculated move that is part of a greater agenda of targeting ethnic and/or religious families in Norway.

    Both possibilites or anywhere along the spectrum resulted in a terrible tragedy: the breakup of a beautiful family.

    I am sure you know about the other well publicized cases of Barnevern abuse. There are parents in Norway who are afraid to speak out because they live in fear of Barnevern taking their children.

    Do you realize what this is doing to Norway’s image in the world?

    Do you realize that the Czech Republic may break diplomatic relations with Norway over Barnevernet abuse?

    Do you realize that Romania has an EXCELLENT economic and political relationship with Norway that will be hindered because some ideologs were eager to go on a proverbial witch hunt?

    Instead of investigating and perhaps helping the Bondarius (who by-the-way never abused the kids as no evidence of abuse was found), Barnevernet goes to the nuclear option and takes the kids away!

    Please put yourself in the shoes of the Bodnarius and look at how this family is suffering…

    PS. what do you think of this move on Barnevern’s part noted at this link?

    http://delightintruth.com/2015/12/06/norways-barnevernet-using-dishonest-tactics/

  2. Let say has nothing to do with religios persecution ( even tho that you don’t need to be bit up to say that ) but you deal with the abuze , force and power base on the interpretation , here we have a institution that broke the humans rights , of this family
    Who will repair the damage that was done all ready , who will be responsible for this crimes
    There is the question who ?

  3. I have a question for Mr. Trygve W. Jordheim, „WHO is paying you ??”

    • Si mie mi se pare suspecta incercarea Mr. Trygye W. Jordheim de a inlatura suspiciunea, adica chiar faptul in sine, de persecutie religioasa asupra familiei Bodnariu cand lucrurile sunt atat de evidente! Se presupune ca meseria dumnealui ar trebui sa investigheze si sa propage adevarul, care oricum intotdeauna va iesi la iveala, si nu sa incerce sa mascheze niste dedesubturi, care la fel, oricum, sunt destinate prabusirii!

  4. If My People Who Are Called By My Name Will Humble Themselves, And Pray And Seek My Face, And Turn From Their Wicked Ways, Then I Will Hear From Heaven, And Will Forgive Their Sin And Heal Their Land. – 2 Chron. 7:14

    NORWAY -Your time to repent is here and NOW!

  5. Yes, Mr Trygve, at this time CP in Norway is not accusing parents on religious base. They accuse of abuse without any signs of it on kids,even if police itself let them go from arrest, concluding that they are not violent.
    BUT they would continue living their life,with all the joys and challenges it supposes,if it weren’t for that ‘clever’ principal in school to decide how much religious they should be.It was enough to let other(read Barnevern, whose employer was sexually abusing his own 2 girls!!!!!!! ) believe they are the God to decide their destiny,claiming they defend the interest of children.Oh yeah,indeed, taking a baby away from the one he needs most,letting them see(just 2 of them) only the mother 4 hours a week (if CP want ,as it was said they didn’t bring the kids even for those 2 hours) ,presents for Christmas that anyway were given by the CP assistants and not the parents,2 girls who didn’t see the parents since beginning of November…,.
    Do you REALLY believe that all this is PROTECTION? Or, on the contrary,doing ALL possible to break the connections between children and parents, so that to have possibility to manipulate them in future and give them further to families of pedophiles, homosexuals etc.Very bright future for the kids,indeed!

    Do some more research and see what a huge business stands under-covered by Child Protection name in Norway. Do some more research on the other hundreds of cases that follow the same injustice sample.This ,of course, if you want to open the eyes to the reality.
    If not,continue living the ‘Norwegian pink dream’ in the ‘best’ country in Europe ,with the most ‘warmhearted and great’ people.
    But let CP ,then, do the same to you and your kids if you have any,or when you have any ,or to some close in your family.Maybe that will really open your eyes,even if it will be too late for it.And then I would like to hear you defending CP and pleading they are doing the correct thing.

    P.S. If it matters to you,I’m not as religious as the family is, but as far as I see from the fact,it’s just indeed a miracle or supernatural power that can help these people and their kids against the creatures,as they can’t be called humans,that destroyed their life.I’m just a soul who can feel compassion for the ones destroyed by the injustice of your people, under-covered by laws. I’m just a human being who,even if never was in such a tragedy, can try to imagine how terrible it is for this family.

  6. El este acest trygve w. jordheim ? Vedeti link;

    Orice taran sau sarac roman sau est european indiferent de religie are mai multa minte ca un intelectual din Norvegia. Nu mai intrati in discutii cu norvegieni mai ales despre subiecte fierbinti deoarece le dati prea multa atentie si le colorati viata cu bucurie facand asta. Ei au banii, zambetul etern, casele, masinile si vacantele. Dar nu au si nu o sa aiba vre-o data durerea, grija de saracie, de persecutie, batjocura, plansul si necazul-adica lucrurile normale care creaza un „OM” si il face astfel sa intrebe pe Dumnezeu „de ce” si ” cat timp ” adica il face un om credincios.

  7. Wow maybe people in Norway are really uneducated. Anyone who just heard about the case shows more compassion and heart for a family that had 5 babies taken away. I bet no one would even talk to this journalist and he can’t even get his own government to make a statement. Probably shouldn’t expect more from him.

  8. Norwegian journalists are very arrogant. In Norway journalists own the truth.

    CPS change always reasoning. Journalists ignoring this.

    In Christianity there are several upbringing methods. When journalists do not relate to it, the play theologians with the only true Christian faith.

    As long upbringing is within what’s been naturally for thousands of years, so should not the state intervene. Norwegian journalists is the government’s wagging dogs.

    In Norway, you can get jail for giving kids house arrest.

    http://www.nrk.no/ostfold/husarrest-kan-gi-fengsel-1.12717149

    Norwegian journalists are useless for social critics. They play only the role of the system’s useful idiots.

  9. What a clown,

    Has this tripper got any idea about this case or just paid to be trolling ????

    The only way to stop a nazi state to develop is by force. The only ones able to do so are the Americans. We the rest of the world are doomed, as the lefturds gave in and turned the guns in.
    The only way to get the kids back is to take their government down by the force of their people. If every Norwegian joins together and wishes to remove that sick government, it can be done.

  10. Trygve W. Jordheim Let The Truth Ring (after you find out and that will require you to do some reading and digging and maybe some suffering from the country you so patriotically defend)You are not the only one patriot (that ignores the facts )there are many that are saying this will not happen to me.But it Will and your silence will only make the beast grow Bigger.

  11. http://lillehammerkommune.com/

    mr Journalist Is this made up too.

  12. Well,I thought that whoever can write a reply on name of Mr Trygve and pretend that it’s him. But,’his’ reply shows,in fact ‘ how many norwegian ‘minds’ think.And, indeed ,it’s almost nonsense to try reaching them and open their eyes. At least those I know and get info about the case.
    I knew these before writing the previous message,but the revolt and the pain in the heart were so big that put my mind totally on fire.

  13. Se pare ca se misca ceva in Norvegia.
    Dna. Ministru anunta ca vrea sa verifice personal unele cazuri in care copiii au fost preluati in urgenta. Ea spune ca vrea sa ajute Serviciul de Protectia Copilului (CPS) sa recastige increderea oamenilor.
    Directoarea serviciul insa nu este de acord si spune ca CPS se bucura de o mare incredere. Se pare ca dna directoare nu accepta nici un fel de critica referitoare la CPS, chiar daca aceasta vine din partea profesionistilor in domeniu.
    Dupa cum spune unul dintre acestia, este infricosator sa vezi ca persoane in functii atat de inalte nu sunt capabile sa faca fata unei critici constructive si sa raspunda intr-un mod constructiv si transparent.
    Cu o astfel de directoare, nu este de mirare modul in care se comporta asistentii sociali.

    http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Horne-vil-granske-enkeltsaker-i-barnevernet-for-a-oke-tilliten-8270536.html

  14. Inca o completare, dintr-un alt articol. Mai multi profesionisti au trimis o petitie la minister pentru a semnala abuzurile Barnevernet.
    A fost o reuniune intre Ministru, Director CPS si acesti profesionisti.

    Din ce spune avocata Gro Hillestad Thune, s-a aratat clar ca sistemul actual produce cazuri in care copiii si familiile sunt expuse abuzurilor de putere si li se incalca drepturile.

    In urma reuniunii, Dna Ministru a indicat sapte lucruri care trebuie imbunatatite, printre care
    – schimbarea modului de functionare actual pentru a fi mai preventiv si a lua mai putine decizii in urgenta.
    – Imbunatatirea modului de lucru cu familiile minoritatilor.

    http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/Horne-motte-kritikerne-av-barnevernet–her-er-7-ting-hun-mener-bor-bli-bedre-8150130.html

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